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Surely (Unregistered Guest)
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 12:12 pm: | 
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2: I am leaving FICS because of the corrupt admins. They have adjudicated
\ all of my stored games (8) as losses. Two bug games were involved in this
\ wrongful adjudication. In one game my opponent had forced m1 and we were
\ up time, a win, although his opp disconnected to avoid taking the loss.
\ The admin gave this game to me as a loss without reviewing it or knowing
\ anything about bughouse.
3: Another one of the games was a bug game where my partners opp lagged for
\ over 40 seconds to force a time win against us, normally the admins who
\ know about bughouse will abort these types of games, however this one was
\ adjudicated as a loss. Several of the other games were lightning games,
\ wherein I was up time and even on material at most down a pawn. These
\ games, even though several times I tried to resume them, were adjudicated
\ as losses.
4: And most importantly the admin who adjudicated the games, had to do so
\ under the handle of "rebecca" and whoever it was that did this will not
\ fess up to the wrongful adjudications. Most importantly, this admin did
\ NOT even review the games, as the adjudication messages were all received
\ within the same MINUTE. That's 8 games reviewed in 1 minute. Yeah,
\ right.
But don't get me wrong, 3 of the games were lost, but my opps never had the time to resume them and I didn't care that they were adjudicated as losses, I only care about the won games, being adjudicated as losses.
That's the fics admins for you... did someone say power trip?
Surely. |
Beuki
Senior Member
Username: Beuki
Post Number: 310
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 12:58 am: |
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Hello Surely
What happened to you, is a meanwhile aufomated process on FICS. A bot called Rebecca searches the stored games of each player for at least 3 games, where the disconnector is at least 3 points (1 pawn) down. Rebecca then sends a message asking for explanation or resuming. In case nothing happens the games get adjucated as a loss.
It has nothing to do with a single admin being on a power trip and hiding behind a TD account.
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Beuki
Senior Member
Username: Beuki
Post Number: 311
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 01:09 am: |
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Wow Surely
I just went through your adjudicated games. All your adjudicated lightning games were completely lost apart of one. With 2 Queens down you cannot say, you had winning chances on time.
You clearly disconnected to avoid a loss.
I didn't look at the bughouse games, as it makes no sense to analyse them without the second board, but in case you have the bpgn.files, you are invited to have them published on bugboard, to have them analysed by others.
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Knighttour
Moderator
Username: Knighttour
Post Number: 418
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 02:45 am: |
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I agree with beuki. There was one lightning game that was dead even in the opening with around 50 seconds left per player. That clearly shouldn't've been a loss. The other lightning games were clear losses though.
The bughouse games are unclear without seeing the other board. If your opponents lagcheat disconnected, noplay them. They're more to blame than the adjudicator. Still, I don't think bughouse games should be adjudicated by computer though... too many variables. |
Surely (Unregistered Guest)
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 11:53 pm: |
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Actually I could have flagged him one of the games.. I think the game was against someone with a "c" as the first letter in the handle. I was up about 15 seconds and only down a piece.
And I already admitted that most of my lightning games were lost, but when I return and my opponent won't resume them, there isn't anything I can do. I try to resign the most deadly games but sometimes I forget.
The bug games were both wins, and if you care because obviously you both have a lot of free time you can look into it. But to say all my lightning games were forced losses is rediculous as I could have flagged.
Also Beuki you are incorrect about one thing, I never received any message from "Rebecca" asking for an explanation.. I just logged in and the games were all wrongfully adjudicated as losses. There is definately some power trip going on, but you are more than welcome to have your own opinion. That doesn't mean I have to agree with it, when clearly what happened to me was not of the norm (for one not being asked why the games were stored).
Surely
PS. Its not very nice to accuse people of intentional disconnect... I've seen you get disconnected plenty of times, were they all intentional? Perhaps I should just assume they were.
PPS. Anyway I won't be checking back at bugboard because obviously only the admin suck ups are posting here and I'm getting FICS completely out of my system. Have great lives! |
Observer (Unregistered Guest)
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 06:05 am: |
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There were at least three lightning games in which you were mated in one and disconnected, coincidence? |
Observer (Unregistered Guest)
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 07:49 am: |
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...and why argue with a well known dupe and abuser anyway...its good to see the admins make an example of it. |
Knighttour
Moderator
Username: Knighttour
Post Number: 419
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 12:32 pm: |
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54: - 1667 B 1791 ActorX [ lr 1 0] B00 Adj Fri Sep 23, 05:03 EDT 2005
He has two queens and 9 seconds. You have nothing and 27 seconds. It is mate in 1. Clear loss for you.
55: - 1655 W 1523 cianal [ lr 1 0] C25 Adj Fri Sep 23, 05:03 EDT 2005
You have 51 seconds. He has 54 seconds. It's in the opening, only a knight has been traded off. Dead even game. Should not have been a loss.
56: - 1643 B 1447 cristocea [ lr 1 0] A40 Adj Fri Sep 23, 05:03 EDT 2005
You have a bishop, 5 pawns, and 29 seconds. He has a queen, a rook, a knight, 5 pawns, and 22 seconds. A monkey could beat you in this position. Clear loss.
57: - 1973 B 1624 juliusde [ Br 3 0] --- Adj Fri Sep 23, 05:03 EDT 2005
58: - 1964 W 1850 koluha [ Br 3 0] --- Adj Fri Sep 23, 05:03 EDT 2005
Bughouse games. Unclear what the other part of the games are. I could check at bughouse-db.org, but I'm lazy. Also it wouldn't matter if they are older than the bughouse database.
59: - 1636 W 1699 prz [ lr 1 0] D00 Adj Fri Sep 23, 05:03 EDT 2005
You have nothing and .3 seconds. He has 3 pawns and 4.1 seconds. With a minmovetime of .1 seconds he needs to make 3 moves in 4.1 seconds to flag you. Pretty easy. In fact, if he's a premover he can probably promote a pawn (from the 6th to 1st rank) in that time. Clear loss unless he's incredibly slow.
60: - 1958 W 2010 stinker [ Br 3 0] --- Adj Fri Sep 23, 05:03 EDT 2005
Another bughouse game. See above discussion on the bughouse games.
61: - 1630 W 1749 tinjoe [ lr 1 0] A46 Adj Fri Sep 23, 05:03 EDT 2005
You have a rook, a bishop, 4 pawns, and 11.5 seconds. He has a queen, 2 rooks, 6 pawns, and 8.9 seconds. There is no clear forced mate. In my opinion his best chance is to try for Rh1 Rh2 Qf2# and hope you don't block him. If you do try to block him (Re5 Re3), he can force you to lose the bishop and then the rook. Alternatively he can bring his f8 rook to a8 and then into play or try to promote his b6 pawn.
In my opinion this game is unclear. If he analyzed the stored game for 5 minutes before resuming, he would crush you. If he just resumed cold turkey, he would not be able to analyze that well within 9 seconds and very well might get flagged. |
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