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jiggab
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 04:10 pm: | 
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This is a continuation of the NBA arguement of miscellaneous topics. continue posting here. |
Pro Golfer
| | Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 10:10 am: |
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The NBA is ghey. |
NTT
| | Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 10:35 am: |
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Golf is for Gays. Just look at the clothes. They're all bunched up to see who can swing at a ball the best, with a new quest of finding their own ball. There couldn't be a worse "sport." |
NotTooThoughtful
| | Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 11:02 am: |
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NTT, do you have a clue as to how difficult the game of golf is? The tenor of your criticism shows that you likely have not obtained a proficiency at the game, otherwise, you would not make such an ill-thought statement. |
kingwalker
| | Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 12:42 pm: |
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NTT is RIGHT AND WRONG! 
Right since the clothing they wear IS awful or "fancy wanna be"!
Wrong because it may NOT be sport but golf is a hard game(at least the mini-golf is for me). It may take the athletism of a senior citizen but to be accurate with that DAMN BALL! is NOT that easy!
But beside the ball, what has golf to do with basketball?? THis is supposed to be a NBA conversation!!! |
Errantfischer
| | Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 03:17 pm: |
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Golf is not a sport. Yes, a high degree of accuracy is required to golf well. But then, a high degree of accuracy is also required to bowl and shoot pool well, and I don't consider those sports either.
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Jiggab
| | Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 04:08 pm: |
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Golf is a sport. It involves as much strategy as chess. So I guess you don't condier chess a sport too? |
kingwalker
| | Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 04:41 pm: |
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I do NOT consider chess a sport. A game, nothing else, nothing more! |
jiggab
| | Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 07:22 pm: |
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Chess helps you procure prowess and power in the arms, thus strengthening the inner-arm muscles, making it more convenient when using things with hands.
Therefore, these facts help me infer that chess is one of the more non-active sports and is a very ubiquitous game.
These are my thoughts.
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Errantfischer
| | Posted on Friday, May 17, 2002 - 06:34 am: |
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Chess is not a sport. Chess does not offer anaerobic benefits, as you suggest, because the weight of the pieces is not sufficient to provide adequate resistance. I recommend beer-drinking, instead. (Be sure to use the 32-ounce mugs.) Now, if you will excuse me, I have to go train. |
JiggaB
| | Posted on Friday, May 17, 2002 - 07:20 am: |
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If a frail person, or an elderly gentleman lift chess pieces, it may gradually strengthen their arms. |
Tasunder
| | Posted on Friday, May 17, 2002 - 09:54 am: |
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By the same logic, an old dude can play tennis, therefore it must not be a sport.
If to qualify as a sport the activity requires rigorous physical exercise and not just rigorous training and precision of body movement, then baseball is not a sport either. What about racecar driving? Is that a sport? Why? Just because you sweat a lot?
I consider all of those sports, and I consider golf a sport. It requires extreme precision and specific body motions in order to achieve the correct result. Even if you were the ultimate golf genius in terms of thinking, this would not make you a great golfer alone. You need the precise body control in order to hit the ball as you would like to hit it. |
kingwalker
| | Posted on Friday, May 17, 2002 - 10:11 am: |
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In the same wave of thought, Steve Kerr would love to dunk it ONCE but he can't.. and he still makes a living playing basketball!
They call curling a sport... in spanish countries they would call it "bochas on ice" or I think "bocci" in Italy and that is NOT a sport (but it is in the olympics!!) |
jiggab
| | Posted on Friday, May 17, 2002 - 11:51 am: |
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So, you can say the same about the NBA. You don't need skill or speed to play. Look at Robert Tractor Traylor or Shaquille O'Neal. They are just big. Perhaps "big" is underrating their true phonetic makeup. |
jiggab
| | Posted on Friday, May 17, 2002 - 11:55 am: |
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Curling is an extremely active European sport. On my venture to Europe I got a chance to see the intense competition taking place between the competitors. It is indispensable in Curling that you release the "thing" with an impeccable grace, as not to release it too hard or too soft. |
nfg
| | Posted on Friday, May 17, 2002 - 01:10 pm: |
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Baseball is a sport for the pitcher, and is a sport whenever a person gets a ball hit to them or is batting... |
Rubberduck
| | Posted on Friday, May 17, 2002 - 02:53 pm: |
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lol, shaq just big ;-) that dude is so bloody fast and agile its amazing, he is like the comics increadible hulk, i dare say he would eat alive any center today and in the past (wilt) if shaq played 30 years ago he wouldnt score 100 in one game he would probably score 100 per game...
that said, my top 10 list is:
1. Michael Jordan
2. M.J.
3. Air Jordan
4. Michael
5. Jordan
I think many many years will pass untill such a combination of athletisizm, coordination and a desire to win will combine themself in one player in a way that will lead to perfection.
we miss u michael. |
Curt Gowdy
| | Posted on Friday, May 17, 2002 - 03:10 pm: |
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Chess is not a sport. It's just a way to kill time while downloading p0rn. |
jiggab
| | Posted on Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 03:17 pm: |
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Rubberduck's top 5 list is a load of bullshit. This is my list:
1 Terrence Morris
2 Ira Newble
3 Art Long
4 Gheorge Muresan
5 Wang Zhi Zhi |
jiggab
| | Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 07:07 am: |
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i cant believe LA lost to the Kings. LA needs to stop this ball movement and just pass the motherfucking ball to kobe or shaq. they cant win if kobe takes 6 shots in a half. if u r shooting poorly, like kobe did, then keep shooting. gosh, do i hvae to be the lakers coach?
and the officials need 2 see that divac is being a pussy and cant guard shaq so he flops every time. |
Jamesbaud
| | Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 09:55 am: |
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Not only did the Lakers lost to Sac (TWICE), they should be down 3-1 now instead of 2-2. Oh, and this is with the Kings 20+ ppg Stojakovic on the bench.
I am very much amused by the reversal of the press during the series. First it was "Lakers will win in 5" and now it's "ummm... Lakers may not win". Ruh roh shaggy!
As much as I dislike the lakers, Horry is Mr clutch. I hate him the most, the shmuck.
Matt |
jiggab
| | Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 06:02 pm: |
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People like Vlade Divac make a bad influence on the NBA. I know he tries thinking he's brave by flopping off Shaq's 360 pounds of bulk, but the officials make all the wrong calls, only because Shaq is so powerful.
It wouldnt make a difference if they had Stojakovic. Turkoglu has put up 20 a game every game except for the first, so subsituting two players with equivalent PPG makes no difference. The Lakers have a much better plan. pass it into shaq and if he is triple teamed, pass it to one of their 10 3 point shooters on their team.
I predict Lakers will win the next two games, the Celtics will finish off the Nets, and the Lakers will win the finals in 5 games. |
Kingwalker
| | Posted on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 07:50 pm: |
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The art of ignorance by JiggaB
a)Vlade is probably the MOST technical center the NBA has seen in the last 10 yrs
b)The REFEREES are the ones who made the calls (even the bad ones)
c)When Turcaloo has to leave, who plays? a MORON but if Petra is there... it is harder, but it probably should be better (for them) if he comes as a sub.
d)IF Sacramento keeps the "hot hand", even I (a Laker fan) wouldn't put even money. BUt I don't think they can keep the hot hand for 2 more games.
e)NJ is not "done yet" |
jiggab
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 28, 2002 - 05:22 pm: |
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OK, KingWalker. There is only player on the Kings I have trust in. Mike Bibby. He is awesome these playoffs and it's likely he will cool down since on Sunday he was defended nicely. I know you might hate me for this, but Chris Webber isn't a true player. He never gets to the foul line, he is always in foul trouble, he is too short to play with Duncan, and he always depends on the outside shot.
Do you seriously think the Kings and their out-of-control offense can get past the Laker's stable defense? I think not. |
Kingwalker
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 28, 2002 - 08:02 pm: |
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Sac CAN beat the Lakers but I do NOT believe they will.Why?
1-Samaki Walker REALLY SUCKS.(at least doesn't cost as much as Webber who ALSO SUCKS)
2-At halftime (when I'm writting this) LAL down by 5. why? Shaq w/3fouls, Kobe/Fox/Fisher 2
3-IF THEY ARE HOT, Sac can score a lot of points (mostly with all the calls they are getting) and if the LAL miss too many...they'll make them pay
4-If Shaq follows Divac outside, he's not that fast. If he doesn't, Divac MAY score a lot of points.
I DO NOT think Sac will win, but they can. |
Lakerfan
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 28, 2002 - 10:19 pm: |
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With some help from the guys in striped shirts but they won. I hope that you stopped saying "they can't win" now!  |
Jamesbaud
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 10:40 am: |
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Kings got some calls in game 5, but quit your bitching. Without help from "the guys in striped shirts", the Lakers would have lost game 4. The refs in this series are *awful* but they aren't biased.
Webber is not bad at all, but he's not a superstar. In the end, I think thats what the Kings want. Find me another team with SEVEN guys averaging over 10 ppg. Webber scores his 25 points and 11 rebounds, draws double-teams and sets the pick (5 assists). Oh, and 1.6 blocks per game and 1 steal per game. Agaisnst the lakers. He's not perfect (MY GOD THE FREE THROWS!), but he's definitely a star. In reality, that's all they need from him. Seven of the eight regular Kings can actually shoot.
I think you lakers fans aren't used to an entire basketball team actually being able to play basketball. *grin*
And I've heard enough about the refs abusing poor Shaq. Does he get fouled a lot? Hell yes, but he also gets away with murder on the other end. If they called Shaq for every foul he commits, he'd be lucky to make it to halftime. *I* am willing to see every foul called where Shaq is involved, but I don't think the Lakers are.
Out of control offense? Out of control offenses don't score 105ppg. They don't win 61 games in the regular season.
The Lakers last year had it. They were unbeatable. The lakers of last year could crush the Kings of this year... but the Lakers this year are just not playing that well. With the exception of Horry who always does well in the playoffs, the Lakers look sloppy. The magic is gone.
Thats my story and I'm sticking to it
Matt
PS. A certain Ukranian was blabbing about how the Lakers were beating the Kings in every fundamental stat. For your viewing pleasure...
| LAL | | SAC | Advantage | | 95.4 | PPG | 97.8 | KINGS | | 48.8 | RPG | 44.0 | lakers | | 18.8 | APG | 20.8 | KINGS | | .415 | FG% | .466 | KINGS | | .661 | FT% | .671 | KINGS | | .257 | 3P% | .339 | KINGS |
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Jamesbaud
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 10:52 am: |
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I just saw something interesting on Bibby. The Kings have almost the exact same team as last year, except with Bibby instead of Jason Williams. Here's williams stats from 2001 postseason vs lakers compared to bibby's:
| Williams 2001 | Bibby 2002 | | PPG | 5.3 | 21.4* | | FG. pct. | 29.2 | 47.0 | | APG | 2.8 | 4.8 | | W-L | 0-4 | 3-2 |
Whose da man!?
Matt |
Blackcomb
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 12:02 pm: |
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JB, I am not ukranian, and I was saying that in _game 4_ lakers outplayed kings in all fundamental stats except for in the first quarter. At least get your quotes straight.
Regarding refs, they won 2 games for the kings vs perhaps one game for the lakers (game 4). And you gota be kidding saying that refs weren't biased in game 5. |
Kingwalker
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 12:24 pm: |
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What I do NOT understand is why the refs can't be CONSISTENT?? I don't argue that Shaq recieves and gives a lot. But if you call bloquing or charging, do it CONSISTENTLY. Some of the picks Webber did were CLEARLY foul. Charge call sometimes, blocking others...
Did Lakers deserve to lose? PROBABLY. Fisher's stupid foul at the end of the half, mistakes inbounding the ball and NO good shot selection will do it.
The Kings are better than last year, HELL YES!
The Lakers are playing WORSE, HELL YES!
I'll predict a game 7 (this time the refs will be in the Laker's side) and there... who knows? |
Blackcomb
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 12:39 pm: |
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If the refs are on the lakers side? Hell, I know! |
Kingwalker
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 01:21 pm: |
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When did i ask (or said):"If the refs are on the lakers side?". If you said it for game 6, i said THEY WILL BE. In game 7... well, i don't know because there is so much stupidity involved (egos, money, plain ignorance)that "non-stupid" people can't relate to. |
nfg
| | Posted on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 04:56 pm: |
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there is only one question
where the fuck is ron liu when you need him?! :D |
kingwalker
| | Posted on Friday, May 31, 2002 - 10:20 pm: |
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Like I said it before, Thanks to the referees the Lakers go to game 7.
What will happen there? Will they let them play basketball? Will they decide the game like this one? Your guess is as good as mine |
Jiggab
| | Posted on Saturday, June 01, 2002 - 06:41 am: |
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I am so pissed off at the Celtics. With 40 seconds left they have the ball and coming out of a time-out Antoine Walker shoots a fadeaway 3-pter? They should trade him; Pierce doesnt get enough shots |
bart
| | Posted on Saturday, June 01, 2002 - 02:33 pm: |
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Look at all the money the NBA and NBC will make at game 7, and who to the refs work for? Doh, money rules and this is entertainment, not a game anymore. Pretty soon you'll see more 350 pound NFL type of players like Shaq and with no one enforcing the 3 second lane violation, these hulks will just sit there. Basketball is pathetic now. |
jiggab
| | Posted on Saturday, June 01, 2002 - 03:53 pm: |
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Basketball is pathetic? Well let's see. The average ppg is down about 10 points from 15 years ago, so that means defense must play a bigger part, thus preserving the element of a game. If you take out the Kings and Mavs you have real basketball. |
Kingwalker
| | Posted on Saturday, June 01, 2002 - 06:07 pm: |
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With all the MORONS who come to the draft early and with size but NO SKILLS... what can you expect?
Most players in the bottom half of the EASTERN joke shouldn't be playing even in the CBA! |
Jiggab
| | Posted on Saturday, June 01, 2002 - 06:28 pm: |
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I know. People should stay all 4 years in College. That's what Battier did, and he had a great season. I hope houston trades yao ming, they already have cato and willis, no need for some tall, scrawny shit, who cant post up. He is the next version of Shawn Bradley. |
Kingwalker
| | Posted on Saturday, June 01, 2002 - 08:16 pm: |
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I can't blame the players, the can break something and lose money, but the teams who hired them??? Maybe they should send them 1 or 2 yrs to Europe FIRST (if they like them) and THEN bring them back. But they fear (with reason) that they may NOT return, I know of some players who were offered in the NBA but they don't want to resign money they make now to get a "rookie salary"! |
Blackcomb
| | Posted on Sunday, June 02, 2002 - 01:32 am: |
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bart, wake up, where did you see "350 pound NFL type of players like Shaq?" shaq is quick agile and has great elevation for his size there's nobody in the nfl like him.. don't confuse the beer bellied nfl 350pounders with shaq..
and stop complaining about refs you kings fans as they gave kings games 2 and 5.. now chill out and enjoy tomorrow's game and say goodbye to king's season |
KIngwalker
| | Posted on Sunday, June 02, 2002 - 09:34 am: |
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Blackie: I'm a Laker fan but still they give game 6 to the Lakers. They took away 1 or 2 but the question is what will happen TODAY??? |
jiggab
| | Posted on Sunday, June 02, 2002 - 02:11 pm: |
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I would LOVE to see a Lakers-Nets finals. Macculough on Shaq? Horry can stop Martin and Bryant can stop Kidd, whereas vice versa Kidd cant stop Bryant and Martin can't stop Kidd. I hope those fucking Kings get their asses kicked the quaint way. |
Kingwalker
| | Posted on Sunday, June 02, 2002 - 08:22 pm: |
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You will! and this time Sacramento can only blame themselves and their poor free throwing |
Rubberduck
| | Posted on Sunday, June 02, 2002 - 08:35 pm: |
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beat LA beat LA ...
NOTTTTTTTTTT !
fuck kw. |
Blackcomb
| | Posted on Sunday, June 02, 2002 - 08:55 pm: |
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YEAH BABY!!!!!!! awesome game and the refs were fair this time. almost too much fun
JB, waiting for you to post something |
kingwalker
| | Posted on Sunday, June 02, 2002 - 10:15 pm: |
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Yes Rubber DICK!! I wanna fuck!! |
Intoxicated
| | Posted on Sunday, June 02, 2002 - 11:44 pm: |
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3-PEAT, 3-PEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SUCKRAMENTO GOT BITCHED AGAIN. HOW DOES IT TASTE NO-CAL LOSER?
NBA Finals: Lakers in 4.
Time to start making those parade plans..
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jiggab
| | Posted on Monday, June 03, 2002 - 05:07 am: |
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No, it won't even be 4 games, the Nets will run away after game 1 paranoid |
Jiggab
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 05, 2002 - 04:52 pm: |
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I anticipate the raping that shall occur in less than two hours.
I expect the Nets to be in every game, but they will die at the end.
++++LAKERS |
jiggab
| | Posted on Saturday, June 08, 2002 - 08:21 pm: |
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Anyone here think the Nets can come back?
I mean, Kittles and Van Horn shot terribly last night and Jason Kidd shooting 3 shots in a half is intolerable |
jiggab
| | Posted on Friday, June 14, 2002 - 06:41 pm: |
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what about those lakers? it was more amusing watching Mark Madsen dance at the ceremony today than watching the Lakers EEK the Nets. EEK is just being generous. This was a huge onslaught on the poor Nets. |
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